Discovering Our Writing Processes

by Jami Gold on December 10, 2015

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I’ve been reading blog posts about writing for about 7 years now (wow!), and there’s one thing that drives me crazier than anything else: advice implying that there’s only one right way to write (or do any part of the publishing process, really).

If we’ve been around the online writing world, we’ve seen us vs. them attitudes for many aspects of writing—plotting vs. pantsing, traditional publishing vs. self-publishing, etc. Heck, I’ve even seen the attitude that there’s only one right way for an editor to edit. *shakes head*

Here’s the thing… (And we all know this, but a reminder never hurts. *smile*) Just because something works for one person doesn’t mean it will work for everyone.

Or to take it a step further, just because something works for us one time doesn’t mean it will work for us all the time. Our process might evolve with more experience, or adjust as our situation, our mood, or our connection with the story itself changes.

I call myself a pantser (as in, writing by the seat of my pants), but for some stories, I’m pantsier than others—and that’s okay. The point is to find—and use—whatever works for us. In the end, there’s only one thing that matters.

Why There’s No Such Thing as “One Right Way”

I can’t go more than a couple of days without coming across a post by someone proclaiming “Here’s the right way to do X.” (Of the hundreds of articles I read a week, I refuse to tweet many of them because I don’t want their “one right way” attitude to mislead other writers.) Their “evidence” for such a statement usually comes down to “This is what worked for me.”

Great! But everyone’s brains are different: what we notice, how we process information, what gets us stuck or unstuck, what motivates us, what helps us connect to our characters, etc.

Our situations are different: our free hours in a day, the distractions or other obligations in our lives, our budget for pursuing our dreams, our support system, etc.

Our goals are different: the types of stories we want to write, the income we want, the sacrifices we’re willing (and able) to make, how we define success, how we hope to connect with readers, etc.

The process that works for someone who wants write plot-focused stories with flat character arcs and lives on their own with no kids underfoot is likely to be very different from the process that works for someone who wants to write character-focused family sagas and has to squeeze in words between loads of laundry for a houseful and taking care of an ailing parent.

The Cure? Experiment with Different Processes

Yesterday, Orly Konig-Lopez wrote about how she discovered that her tried-and-true process didn’t work when she switched genres. Whether it comes down to genre, story, characters, themes, our moods, life chaos, or anything else, our process is going to be personal to us and might change over time.

So whether we’re just starting off and trying to discover what works for us or we’re struggling with how to adjust a process that’s not currently working, let’s talk about some of the options we can try:

Motivation Aspects

  • writing in the morning vs. at night
  • using music vs. silence
  • setting deadlines vs. not
  • seeking support from other writers (NaNoWriMo, writing sprints, etc.) vs. answerable only to ourselves
  • writing only when we have big chunks of time vs. writing in stolen moments
  • aiming for a certain number of pages or words or hours a day

Drafting Aspects

  • researching in advance vs. researching as the story calls for it
  • using a story seed of a plot or a character or a theme or a premise or a turning point scene or a first line, etc.
  • outlining in advance vs. beat sheets vs. pantsing (or anything in between)
  • writing linearly vs. jumping from scene to scene
  • focusing only on dialogue (or whatever) in the first draft vs. writing a fully layered draft
  • thinking of each scene as a short story (beginning to end and an arc of change) vs. keeping the threads of the overall story in mind
  • editing as we go vs. only going forward during drafting
  • fast-drafting vs. taking as long as we need
  • working on one project at a time vs. bouncing between projects as needed for writer’s block or other reasons
  • knowing how the story’s going to end ahead of time vs. figuring it out when we get there
  • setting a story aside for a different idea when it’s not working vs. putting in the work to make it come together

Editing Aspects

  • only reading through the story first vs. making changes while doing a first read
  • focusing only on big picture stuff at first vs. fixing anything and everything we find when we find it
  • relying only on beta readers or editors within our genre vs. listening to revision and editing suggestions from any source
  • fixing everything we can before sending to an editor vs. saving time on nitpicky stuff by relying on our editor to find the errors

We might write our ending first and our beginning last. We might draft in “telling” mode and add in the “showing” details later. We might write all the scenes from one POV and then write the other POV scenes. There’s no wrong answer.

If something’s not working for us, we can change up our process. Or we can try something different the next time. We’re not stuck with anything because of this wonderful invention called the delete key. *smile*

The Only Step That Matters

There’s a reason none of those choices (or plenty of others I didn’t mention) come down to “right” or “wrong”: None of those choices will prevent us from putting finished stories in the hands of our readers.

Every single option (even “setting a broken story aside to work on another idea”) can result in a quality finished story. And isn’t that really the point?

Readers can’t tell from reading a story whether it was pantsed or plotted. Or whether we tore our hair out with writer’s block for 3 months in the middle of drafting it. Or whether we *gasp* edited as we drafted.

That’s because none of that affects our ability to end up with a quality book. Readers don’t see the sausage-making, only the sausage itself. As long as that sausage is yummy, they don’t care about our process.

We will never see a reader proclaim, “I refuse to read any story that was written at night. Morning writing is better.” The very idea is ludicrous.

The only difference between the options is whether they work for us. Some writers tout their process as being more efficient, but that’s an individual measurement. So the question should be, is one method more efficient for us than another?

For example, do we take the time to write clean prose because that’s more efficient for us than fixing it in editing? Or would we like to be a morning writer, but our sleep schedule isn’t cooperating?

The reasons why something may or may not work for us are personal. They depend on how our brain processes information and how our situation and our goals affect our writing.

None of those reasons are wrong. Others just might not understand our reasons because they are personal. But if they work for us, they don’t need to work for everyone else too. *smile*

Have you seen advice that assumes there’s only one right way to do something with our writing processes? Does that attitude stop you from sharing the advice? Or do you share it but add disclaimers? Has your process had to evolve or adjust over time? Do you agree or disagree about the only step that matters?

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Davonne Burns December 10, 2015 at 8:31 am

I couldn’t agree more with this. I have even read books, not just blog posts, on the craft that assume there is only one ‘right’ way to write. That type of advice creates a lot of unnecessary anxiety, especially when it’s coming from neurotypical abled persons. Oftentimes advice like that comes across as ‘if you don’t do x then you are not a ‘real’ writer.’ bleh

I’ve grown a lot more selective about what advice I share, even if it comes from a well-known source or author. I’ve also become a lot more cognizant of how I personally give advice and making sure I’m not dictating my personal methods. This is especially true given the nature of my current blog series.

I love: “I refuse to read any story that was written at night. Morning writing is better.” My writing process has evolved a lot over the years. It HAD to. When you have a chronic illness, three kids and are basically a single parent, finding time to write can be tricky. I really appreciate how you brought out that all of us have different goals and situations.

I think sometimes, we see advice from a successful author and automatically accept it at face value because we want to be successful too, whether or not the advice is actually good for us.

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Jami Gold December 10, 2015 at 9:01 am

Hi Davonne,

Yes, I’ve seen craft books with that attitude as well, and you’re right about how the messaging is often “if you don’t do this, you’re not a real writer.” *pshaw* As I said in the post, none of those differences matter if they don’t prevent us from finishing a project. 🙂

Thank you for sharing your situation! I’ve seen some writers give up a day job (that they liked even!), because they thought they had to if they wanted to be a “real” writer. But as we know, success is long-term and not guaranteed, and income while we strive for that can make a huge difference to our stress level–and thus the right mindset to be creative. It’s so important for writers–new writers especially–to see that there are many ways to succeed in this business. 🙂 Thanks for the comment!

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Christina Hawthorne December 10, 2015 at 11:47 am

To me, all the advice in all the world creates a whole from which we get to pick and choose and reassemble as desired. That’s what I do. I’ve read advice where I rejected 99% of it, but felt thankful for the 1% that might work for me. I don’t give writing advice often and when I do it’s more to share a new twist on my process that I’m trying that might work for someone else. Take it or leave it.

On the other hand, if you’re writing your books at night I WILL find out and I WON’T be happy! 😉 I think there’s a good story in there somewhere.

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Jami Gold December 10, 2015 at 1:27 pm

Hi Christina,

Yes, that’s what I do as well! One of my favorite story structure books has an anti-pantser bias that I just ignore. But especially when we’re new or suffering from an attack of self-doubt, I know that “ignore what doesn’t work for you” idea can be harder to implement, so I like reminding writers that it’s okay to ignore advice. 🙂

LOL! I can just imagine a reader stalking an author’s Twitter profile to see when they talk about writing–those darn night writers. 😉 Thanks for the comment!

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Elizabeth Harmon December 10, 2015 at 12:52 pm

Great post. Yes, I’ve seen a lot of my-way-or-the-highway writing advice and I’m ashamed to say, I’ve probably given some myself. I’ll definitely be more conscientious of this is the future. My CPs and I were discussing our processes the other night. A couple of us have just discovered beat sheets, so we’ probably sounded like those people whose lives have been changed by finding religion, or eating more kale. (Oh my God! You’ve GOT to try this!) Sharing! and thanks.

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Jami Gold December 10, 2015 at 1:29 pm

Hi Elizabeth,

I’m sure I’ve neglected to point out nuances or variations plenty of times too. :/ But I do try, and the more I learn about our options and choices, the better I am about remembering to point them out to others. 🙂

LOL! at the beat sheet discovery. I love it! Thanks so much for sharing!

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Ashley December 10, 2015 at 1:55 pm

Yes! This is SO TRUE! The problem for me is that nearly all of the “you should do it this particular way” advice that almost made me give up on writing… comes from my own brain. Doh! Years ago I was reading a book about writer’s block that recommended figuring out whose voice you were hearing when you had doubting thoughts – a parent? A teacher? I thought about it and realized it was my own voice – my parents and teachers have always been highly complimentary and (perhaps, for my personality) overly encouraging. So for me it’s been extra-difficult to decide, “How should I do this? Is this really working for me and if it isn’t, is it because it really doesn’t work or because I’m fighting it trying to force myself to do it this other way?” *eye roll*

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Jami Gold December 10, 2015 at 3:49 pm

Hi Ashley,

Wow, isn’t that the truth? 🙂 Even though I’d successfully completed a story by pantsing, I forced myself to plot the next story scene-by-scene…just because I’d told myself that’s what real writers did. *sigh*

That’s a great insight about asking ourselves whose voice we’re hearing. 🙂 Thanks so much for sharing!

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Renee Regent December 10, 2015 at 2:42 pm

Great post. I’ve learned over time what to listen to and what to ignore. The same points you made could also be applied to career advice. There are those who think they know the “right” way to launch a book, handle marketing, etc. When in fact all that is subject to personal situations, too.

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Jami Gold December 10, 2015 at 3:53 pm

Hi Renee,

Exactly! I didn’t run down those publishing-type of choices, but that issue within the self-publishing arena is what I’ve been covering in my monthly guest posts at Janice Hardy’s blog. From the beginning with that series, I’ve been sharing what our options are and pointing out how one choice might be better than another depending on our personal goals and situation. 🙂 Thanks for pointing that out!

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Deborah Makarios December 10, 2015 at 2:58 pm

I’ve found the way I work best is in large chunks of time alongside a large pot of tea 🙂
Most of the rest I am still experimenting with, although the mere idea of writing a linear story non-linearly still blows my tiny mind. So, can’t see that one working for me…

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Jami Gold December 10, 2015 at 3:56 pm

Hi Deborah,

I’m not a coffee drinker, but I could get behind this tea idea. 😉

Yes, I’m a linear writer as well. I have one story that I’ve drafted rough versions of a couple of scenes while I was procrastinating on another project–and that’s all I have so far, those scenes. So who knows if I could ever make it work or not. LOL! I’m likely to just scrap those scenes and start over. 🙂 Thanks for stopping by!

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Jo Lamb December 11, 2015 at 3:25 am

So true, Jami. There is so much advice for writers out there and I’m guilty of trying the ‘next best way to write’. It’s great to have so many resources and ideas, most of them free and without obligation but at the end of the day nothing gets done unless we write! I am now concentrating on a number of blogs that kind of match how I want to develop my style and suits me and trying to sit on my hands and ignore the rest of the other stuff that comes up.
I’m also rethinking the way I blog, I’ve struggled with producing posts that offer advice as there is so much out there. I’ve decided that if I’m going to get anything out of it I need to change my mind set. So will be taking a more personal approach, about my writer within and if nothing else, it will be a record for me to look back on!

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Jami Gold December 11, 2015 at 6:20 am

Hi Jo,

So true! Just as there’s never an end to the things we could research in preparation for our story, there’s no end to the “how to write” information. In both cases, we have to eventually say, “Enough!” and get to work. 🙂 Good luck with your adjustments, and thanks for sharing that insight!

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Nathan December 11, 2015 at 10:05 am

This is an excellent post. In particular, I appreciated the aspects to consider.

My problem (among them, I should say) is that the story that feels like it has hold of me is good, and it is complex. I’m glad that I feel like it is good — as does others with whom I verbally shared the overview, and who would tell me if they didn’t think it was good — but the complexity of it keeps weighing on me. It feels like it is too much for my first novel.

I’m trying the approach of writing a scene at a time. I’m also trying to fast draft (based on your recommendation, Jami). Both are helping, but still I consistently am facing this feeling of it being a good story, and yes one I can write, but not the novel or two with which I should begin.

A second novel idea I have is also complex, though not as complex as the first, and requires more world-building since it is fantasy/sci-fi.

I’ve also read and heard the advice of writing series. That makes sense to me. Develop an easier plot with a strong, attractive lead and then write series of books to attract readers — whether in print or ebooks or audio or all — and hopefully build a following. I definitely like an occasional big, juicy plot that challenges or confirms my view of the world, but I also like this idea of simpler plots with characters that I can get into and enjoy book after book.

So, right now I want a one-right-way answer to plot a story, preferably mystery, and get it finished. I completely agree with you, Jami, but I would buy into a do-this-and-not- that at this-time-and-not-that guide in a New York second if I thought it would help my desire to finish a novel.

Make sense? I very much appreciate your work.

Nathan

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Jami Gold December 11, 2015 at 11:53 am

Hi Nathan,

Interesting issue–and one I can relate to. 🙂 My first original novel was very complex and caused no end of issues for me, and that added to my already huge learning curve.

I’ve since set it aside to focus on other stories I was ready to tell, but it was good for me to stick with it and learn what I needed to learn. In the next year or two, I’ll work on it again, now that my skills have matured.

So, of course, that leads to the question: Knowing what I know now, would I still work on my stories in that order? 🙂

I think I would for a couple of different reasons:

  • That story was what I was passionate about at the time, and it’s much easier to write a story that currently holds our passion. If that’s a complex story, so be it.
  • Our first story is likely to have a huge learning curve anyway, so learning from a really complex story might give us confidence to be able to handle anything after that. 😉
  • Our early writing attempts should focus more on learning than on trying to publish right away (easier said than done, I know–but most writers who think they’re ready to publish aren’t that close, so patience for learning is important).
  • Setting a novel aside is not the end of the world. It’s not a failure. We can always go back to it later, and finishing that story before setting it aside can be a huge boost of confidence.
  • We might not need to set it aside. We might make it work right out of the gate.

But those were my choices and situation at the time. If I were equally passionate about another story that was less complex, I might have made different choices.

As far as your desire for “one right way” to plot, there isn’t one. All that matters is whether the method works for you to get to “The End.” Every turning point could be caused by multiple different plot events–and work for the story. Think about the functions you need the plot to hit, and you will reach “The End.”

I’ll ponder a blog post about that topic though, to see if I have other advice for you. 🙂 Good luck and thank for the comment!

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Raylene December 11, 2015 at 11:29 am

Hi Jami,
I’m new to your blog and have been researching and outlining a story of mine for almost a year now. I have a solid outline and have done most of the character questionnaires, but I’m stuck actually doing the writing.

A little background..I was a technical writer for years and still DO write technical specifications and requirements for a software company. I can write school papers and essays and all of that, but when it comes to creative writing…as in a novel, I don’t know WHEN I’m supposed to start, what is needed before I can actually WRITE…

I’m definitely not a pantser, more of a plotter and researcher, which parallels how I approach technical writing or scholastic writing. I feel my story is good and while I KNOW technically how to write, I can’t seem to get started. I know I’m a good storyteller because those that I’ve written have been well received.

I guess I’m just scared and not sure how to know when I’m ready to begin. and wondered if anyone else out there gets “stuck” like this and worries that they don’t know enough about the topic or enough about how to write to actually DO the writing.

Sincerely,
rj

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Jami Gold December 11, 2015 at 12:26 pm

Hi Raylene,

*fist bump* for technical writers! 🙂

Ah, it sounds like you’ve discovered the procrastination method called Analysis Paralysis. Just kidding. Sort of… 😉

As the fact that pantsing exists as a valid method of writing attests, there’s obviously no “one right answer” to when you should stop planning and start writing. Some of us can start writing with just a first line (the one time I did that, I didn’t even know my genre or characters or premise or… O.o). Some of us want an outline of every scene, with a listing of the characters, obstacle, what changes, setting, etc. Most of us will fall somewhere in between.

At a certain point, all fiction writers have to leave the logic aside and let the story flow and the characters take over. Even most uber-planning outliners say that they don’t always stick to the outline.

So the point when I begin writing is usually when the characters are ready to tell me their story. As a pantser who doesn’t write things down with beat sheets, I usually decide to write when I have more half-baked scenes wanting to play like mini-movies in my head than I have room for in my memory, and then I just start transcribing them.

The one time I planned things out (to the scene list level even!), I started writing when I and my characters were antsy to just do it (not just eager to do it, but “OMG–enough! Just do it!”). Any voice that holds you back after reaching that point of antsy-ness is likely just the voice of fear.

Because remember, you don’t have to–and you won’t–get this perfect the first time. Writing is 10% drafting, 90% revision and editing, and 100% tearing out your hair. 😉 Anything that doesn’t feel right can be fixed later.

After your first story, you’ll be in a better position to analyze your feelings about how much you actually need to feel comfortable enough to start. Maybe you reached that antsy point months ago and ignored it, even though whatever research you’ve done since that point could have been delayed until you needed it. Or maybe you’ll discover a different aspect that you’d like to know about before starting a different story in the future.

Everyone is different as far as what they need (and every story might be different). Some need to plan characters and pants the plot events. Some need a strong plot and can pants the characters. Or any combination of neither or both with those. You won’t know that (for next time) until you dig in and start. 🙂

Anyway, yes, this is a very common problem, even among experienced writers (especially when switching genres or series, etc.). Usually, when you feel this way, it means fear is talking and that it’s time to start. 😀

I hope that helps! Thanks for the great question, and let me know if you have others!

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Raylene December 11, 2015 at 12:54 pm

Thank you SO much, I appreciate the advice and I’ve felt that perhaps I WAS venturing into paralysis analysis and that I should as the NIKE ad used to say, JUST DO IT!

Your blog is very interesting to read and enjoyable because I like the conversational/informational style. I’ve found myself just poking around and reading a wide variety of posts and a LOT of them are very relevant to where I am in this process, so I appreciate what you do and hope that you keep on doing it.

thanks again,
rj

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Jami Gold December 11, 2015 at 9:30 pm

Hi Raylene,

Aww, thank you for the kind words. 🙂 I’m a teacher at heart, so I have no plans to shut up anytime soon. LOL! I often write posts based on questions from readers, so I mean it when I say to let me know if you have questions!

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Connie December 11, 2015 at 12:56 pm

I particularly liked the points you made under “Why There’s No Such Thing as “One Right Way” and The Only Step that Matters.” I keep reading helpful ideas, most of which are the same ones just said a little different. It’s a relief to know it isn’t just me not hitting the mark; that it’s more the mark may not be suited to me.

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Jami Gold December 11, 2015 at 9:33 pm

Hi Connie,

You’re right that much advice out there is similar with just a slightly different perspective. I don’t mind those kinds of posts, as we often have to hear or learn something several times for it to sink in and/or make sense. Also, sometimes one explanation might resonate with us more than another, just from word choice or examples or whatever.

But when those advice posts act like their way is the only way? Ugh. And you’re right that it’s good for us to learn that not all advice applies to us. 🙂 Thanks for the comment!

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Julie Glover December 11, 2015 at 1:44 pm

Oh my goodness, I want to hug this post and give it chocolate. I completely believe what you’re saying! Nothing drives me nuttier now than “one way to write” advice. (Except maybe the “you’re not a real writer unless you…” followed by something unrelated to finishing books.)

It has taken me a long time to both own my writing process and to be flexible when the usual isn’t working for me. And I didn’t get here by carrying out the 10 specific steps that worked for someone else. I love hearing about other writers’ processes, because they spark ideas of things I can try. But what works for any specific writer is about turning out quality books, not the journey to that destination. Thank you so much, Jami!

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Jami Gold December 11, 2015 at 9:36 pm

Hi Julie,

LOL! I’m all for hugs and chocolate. 😀

You’re so right about how hearing other ideas can be helpful for sparking ideas of things to try, as long as there’s not the “this is the only way” attitude. 🙂 As you said, when it comes to our writing process and comparing it to others, only the destination matters, not the journey. 🙂 Thanks for stopping by!

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J'aime December 11, 2015 at 5:13 pm

I’m experimenting at the moment with using one of your beat sheets with an already written story draft, instead of at the planning stage. I didn’t do so badly, except I seem to have have a really long Act One relative to the rest of the piece. Ha!

Next step: trim Act One, and get things moving faster.

It’s fun to try doing things differently.

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Jami Gold December 11, 2015 at 9:37 pm

Hi J’aime,

As a pantser, I always use the beat sheet later to help with revisions, so I’m a big believer in there not being a wrong way to work through this process. 🙂 Good luck with your story, and thanks for the comment!

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Ken Hughes December 12, 2015 at 11:31 am

Of course, half the challenge of One Way advice is finding the boundary where the expert moves past “these are some of the basic truths of writing” into saying “I, I mean you, need to always put this three things first and do them this way.” All the advice I’ve ever found has amounted to picking and choosing pieces of the same organic whole–great for cutting through that “analysis paralysis,” but it’s better if they’re the bits that work for that writer.

I like to think of writing as absolute laws–but they’re laws of *balance*, which means you can do almost anything *with* them. If a story’s plot is getting faster-paced, just like a person leaning forward, you may have to brace part of things against that a bit to stay standing (say by keeping the backstory coming as well). OR you can let yourself “fall forward,” stay down a moment, and get up again, if going from pure plot to backstory and back are what you want. Or you can flow with that motion and start walking.

It all depends on what the story needs to be, and which way you want to get to it. The One Way experts tend to be people who know how to balance, and then say you should always walk forward and always stop and rest after a hundred paces. Some of us do better by jogging, or somersaulting.

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Jami Gold December 12, 2015 at 1:30 pm

Hi Ken,

That’s a great point! Many experts have learned the balancing act that works for them, but it becomes so ingrained in their thought process that they forget all the pieces that went into making a method work for them. 🙂

Like you, I tend to pick out the tips that work for me and ignore what doesn’t, but I know some writers, especially when they’re new or full of self-doubt, struggle to know which is which. And thanks for sharing your descriptions of how we might differ in our approach while accomplishing the same thing. LOL! Thanks for stopping by!

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Kerry Gans December 12, 2015 at 9:16 pm

Jami – Great post! Not only is there no one way to write, but as you pointed out, sometimes the process varies from story to story. I’m doing a WIP with 3 POV characters. You’d better believe I outlined more than usual to keep it all straight!

And our process evolves with time. My process before my daughter was much different than it is now, for instance. My creativity works differently now, too. I’m finding myself moving back toward long-hand writing after decades of moving toward all-digital. My process is changing, and I’m not sure I will ever find a single process that works for me in all situations. But that’s part of the fun of writing!

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Jami Gold December 13, 2015 at 9:26 am

Hi Kerry,

Great examples! Yes, in my series, I’m now at the point of needed to keep some sort of timeline to keep everything straight, especially in my current WIP.

And you’re so right about how our situation affect what processes will work for us. Kids vs. no kids. Day job vs. no day job. Etc. That’s so interesting about how longhand is working better for you now.

I completely agree that the challenge of discovering what will work for us from story to story is part of the fun of writing. Every book is different, and that’s wonderful for keeping us engaged and out of ruts. 😀 Thanks for the comment!

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Laurel Garver December 15, 2015 at 9:41 am

Love this post on so many levels. There is no ONE way that fits everyone. I used to beat myself up for being a very ADD sort of writer who would sprint-draft for a bit, get a little stuck, jaunt off for a bit of research, get loads of ideas from that and roughly outline bits of future scenes, come back to the stuck scene and rip it apart. There was no distinct research, plan, write, revise, edit phases done in order. I’d do a little of everything any given day.

Trying to change that process (because it was somehow “wrong”) got me exactly nowhere. I didn’t want to do research in big chunks. Or fix commas for a whole freaking day. So I’d procrastinate rather than dig in.

Rather than fight my non-linear process, I now roll with it and look for ways to simply keep moving forward. My process lets me follow my energy. I AM trying to be more organized now that I’m revising a completed manuscript–mainly keeping a running list that I can check off as I make the changes. But even at revision phase, I am doing more research, drafting new material. Which is perfectly fine. Whatever gets it done.

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Jami Gold December 15, 2015 at 10:06 am

Hi Laurel,

“My process lets me follow my energy.”

LOVE that! 😀 As you said, it’s all about whatever gets it done.

And I’m with you on not being able to handle too much of the nitpicky stuff at once. LOL! (Why I’m a dev editor and not a copy editor. 😉 ) Thanks for the comment!

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Laurel Garver December 15, 2015 at 12:10 pm

I do nit-picky copy editing and proofreading all day at my job, which makes me crave a bit of spontaneity and jumble when I write fiction, just for a change of pace.

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Jami Gold December 15, 2015 at 12:17 pm

Hi Laurel,

I completely understand. 😀

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Serena Yung December 15, 2015 at 10:04 am

Yes! I love posts talking about how writing (and editing and reading) is different for different people, because this is much more realistic than the “there’s just one right way” kind of attitude.

Hmmm I think I might share advice with disclaimers. Or imply a disclaimer saying that this approach worked for me, and you can try and see if it works for you too. If it doesn’t, you can try some other method.

The ability to stick to what works for us rather than being swayed and misled by others claiming there’s only one right way, may come down to writing experience and author self-esteem. When I was more of a beginner writer, I was more trusting and reliant on writing advice books and articles, and perhaps implicitly believed that there are “golden rules”. But now that I’m older and more experienced, I know about the importance of experimenting for yourself and seeing what fits you and seeing all other approaches as maybe valid, but not MY approach.

Self-confidence in writing is indeed very important. It makes you more reliant on your muse and intuition on what suits you personally, rather than solely relying on other people’s opinions and not thinking/feeling it for yourself.

You know the advice many authors give of writing everyday? (Rather than only writing when you feel inspired.) That advice definitely helps me become more productive, and I like how it keeps me emotionally connected to my characters. It’s like making regular contact with your close friends to stay in touch with them.

Plus, for practical reasons, I NEED to work everyday. I think I don’t feel like writing more often than I do, lol; it’s usually sometime after I start writing that I feel like it and get inspired. So if I wait for inspiration to hit, I would be writing at an incredibly slow pace. I really cannot afford to be slow, because the Chinese story I just finished was 1.52 million words, lol! If I for instance only wrote 500 words a week, I would be about 82 years old by the time I finish it. And you know how revision takes even longer than writing! As well, I still need to write my sequel series, translate both series into English, and of course write and edit all my other stories and series. So yeah, can’t afford to be too slow, or else I would literally not get everything done before I die, lol.

Yeah, I agree that our writing methods can change over time. I used to only write on paper, but then I became okay writing on my laptop, and now I find that I can focus better and be more productive writing on my phone. It’s faster on my phone too, because I have autocorrect. In fact, I am more than 1.5 X faster on the phone than on my laptop when writing in Chinese, also because of a Chinese version of autocorrect, haha. Writing by hand is also about the same slowness as writing on the laptop for Chinese. I’d have to spend lots of time typing up what I wrote by hand too, whereas if it was done on my phone, I could just copy and paste it to my emails! Of course I wouldn’t recommend this method to people who don’t enjoy typing on their phones. I do and I think I might be a faster typer on the phone than the average person, haha. Weird thing to be proud of, eh? XD

For pantsing vs plotting, I used to feel uncomfortable completely pantsing, partly because I was afraid it would become random and partly because I would get “stuck” eventually with nothing interesting to write. On the other hand, I was sometimes annoyed at how time-consuming outlining or planning could be, as I wanted to get on with the actual writing.

Yet nowadays, I feel comfortable completely pantsing, haha. It was partly inspired by your posts on pantsing, that pantsing can be organized too (and that plotting doesn’t necessarily make it organized); and that from your experience, it’s possible to almost completely pants it and be able to finish a whole novel. Encouragement from other writers’ experiences is very valuable.

Plus, I’m even more inspired about pantsing now, because I pantsed my whole long (the 1.52 million words) series. If you want to count from the time I stopped writing down even my predictions of future plot events (long-distance pantsing), I managed to pants for 1.15 million words and actually complete the story! This is not to show off, but just to show that it is definitely possible to finish even a mega long story without planning at all. I have a non-writer reader friend who believed that pantsers’ stories just go on and on and never stop, but ha, my experience proves that assumption wrong. XD

Yes, of course I will have a lot to edit later, but I’m confident that I can get through it; and if you have a very long series, you have to be prepared to spend a ton of time editing all those books anyway, right? (If we count 500 words per page and 371 pages per book, it would be a little over 8 books for the series at the moment.) And as you said, with pantsers, our muse and intuition can get us to weave in foreshadowing, subplots, tangents, stronger character development, greater tension and suspense, etc., so it ends up a lot more organized than people who don’t believe in pantsing would expect it to be. Again, I have a lot of faith in my ability to edit even this very long story, and reading your posts on story structure (especially the one on tangents and subplots!) and characterization gave me numerous ideas on how to improve my work! (My self-belief here doesn’t mean I’ll ignore beta reader advice. It just means that I’m confident that I can edit it thoroughly before sending it to a beta reader for feedback.)

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Jami Gold February 2, 2016 at 6:30 am

Hi Serena,

Yes, even when I edit for others, I often include hedges or disclaimers. Or at least I share the why for my suggestion so they can judge for themselves, and my cover letter always includes “use what works for you and toss the rest.” 🙂

Yeah, I can’t imagine writing on my phone, but you make a good point about autocorrect, and the important thing is that you figured out what works for you. And yay! So glad my posts about pantsing have helped you. 😀 Thanks for the comment!

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Asrai Devin January 4, 2016 at 1:01 pm

Oh man, these are my thoughts in a blog post. I tried once to write them out, but it was jumbled.

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Jami Gold January 4, 2016 at 6:27 pm

Hi Asrai,

LOL! I’m glad you could relate, and that it’s not just me. 😉 Thanks for stopping by!

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