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December 13, 2012

Fan Fiction to Published Book: A Case Study

Into the Dark cover image with text: ...And the Journey from Fan Fiction to Published Book

Last time, we discussed the different options for publishing a story that had its genesis in fan fiction: name-change-only, reworking, and rewriting. Whether we believe there’s ever a “right” way to publish a story that began as fan fiction (fanfic), authors who completely rewrite their story should be recognized for at least making the attempt to avoid the ethical issues of the pull-to-publish (P2P) process. As I stated last time, these different approaches shouldn’t be lumped together with the attitude that all P2P is equally bad.

Today, I’m happy to welcome an author who took the path of rewriting her Twilight-based fanfic story from scratch. She stripped her story down to the premise and started over with new characters, which in turn, led to a new plot, as these characters reacted differently to the premise’s inciting incident. An analysis by the Turnitin plagiarism software confirmed that her original fiction story, Into the Dark, is 99% different from the fanfic version of the premise, which was called The Hostage.

That sounds like a lot of work for a story that might still be unaccepted by some, simply due to its fanfic roots, but when I heard her unique premise, I understood her inability to let this story idea go. I love all my premises, and if necessary, I’d be willing to rewrite the whole story several times too. *smile* (In fact, published authors have done exactly that!)

Please join me in welcoming Stacy Green, author of Into the Dark!

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Jami GoldHi, Stacy, let’s talk about the big picture of the P2P issue first. How would you define P2P and do you support it?

Stacy Green: For me, it all comes down to the amount of work you put into rewriting and creating a new story. If you’ve got an original premise and are willing to rewrite, then choosing to publish isn’t necessarily wrong. The key is how different the published piece is from the original.

I don’t think simply taking a fan fiction piece you’ve written and then changing the names and selling it is right. That was the main issue I had with 50 Shades of Grey—the 89% ratio to characters that so closely resembled Edward and Bella. It bothered me that the author didn’t change the characters, or even betterstart over.

Jami: How did your attitude toward P2P affect how you approached writing Into the Dark?

Stacy: I had to start completely over. I felt—and still do—that as long as I wrote an original piece based on the premise and didn’t simply reuse what I had in The Hostage­—I was writing a new book.

That meant accepting the fact that fan fiction is not the same as a novel. I’d build up a bit of an ego based on some of the reviews, and I had to check all that at the door and realize I was a complete novice.

Essentially, doing it right meant trashing everything and learning craft and the business of publishing.

Jami: What makes Into the Dark different from the usual P2P situation?

Stacy: I don’t consider Into The Dark as pulled to publish. I took a premise—the idea of a stalker staging a bank robbery to kidnap a woman—and wrote a completely new story. New characters—down to motivation, background, physical, etc. Only the very basic concept of the beginning was kept.

I also had to learn how to write a real book. I’d already figured out I was pretty clueless about that, so I studied story structure, point of view, plot and character, scenes, and took some online classes.

I started from scratch more than once. Even though the Edward and Bella I created for The Hostage were very different from the real characters, they were both one-dimensional, and I still had to create the hero and heroine all over again for Into The Dark. It wasn’t until I created detailed backgrounds for both of them that I finally got their personalities the way I wanted them.

And then there were the plotting issues. I was a panster, and The Hostage had no directionjust a basic idea. Figuring out the plot for Into The Dark was a huge work in progress. I wrote two separate drafts before I really figured out what turning points and midpoints were. And then I had to write another!

But it ended up to be a great thing, because I learned how to be a much better writer. And I’m still learning, of course. That’s the best thing about writing.

JamiThe Turnitin plagiarism software program showed that Into the Dark is 99% different from The Hostage. Can you talk about the ways you ensured this was an entirely different story?

Stacy: Well, The Hostage wasn’t even halfway complete (and still over 100K words at that point!) when I made the decision to pull. I then spent a year doing everything I spoke about above: learning craft, characterization, structure, etc., keeping only the premise as I’ve explained.

My hero had no real background and was utterly one-dimensional, so I created one, adding personal and family conflict—a family past that’s dark and tragic, which is a complete opposite from Edward’s apple-pie life in The Hostage. My heroine was a skittish, angry introvert who was very hard to like. I started fresh with her more than once. For her past, I kept one idea from The Hostage—the role her grandmother played in her life, and I still toned that down a great deal. I gave her a new personality, background, and character arc.

In The Hostage, the Cullen family played a vital part. Those characters were dumped. The hero, Nathan, does have a sister, but she was rewritten and is based on a close friend.

I chose to keep the Taker’s nickname, but that’s about all that’s the same with him. He was always my creation, but he was originally supposed to have erotomania—when a stalker fixates on someone because they believe that person is in love with them. I abandoned that idea and created a new, much more layered background for him that is actually the driving force of his obsession with Emilie.

All the scenes and concepts with the homeless were created specifically for Into The Dark. I spoke to Matthew O’Brien, author of Beneath the Neon, about what it was really like in the tunnels to ensure I got it right.

JamiWhich aspects of the story are the same, and why did you keep them?

Stacy: Like I said, the only things I really kept are the Taker’s name and the premise of using the bank robbery as a ruse. I kept the premise because it was original and had a lot of potential. As for the “Taker,” I just loved the name too much to give it up. I think it invokes fear and would make a great headline.

Jami: I can understand why you kept both of those! What are you most worried about if people think this is a P2P situation and that these are the same story?

Stacy: My biggest worry is people purchasing Into The Dark because they think it’s The Hostage and then feeling cheated/disappointed. That’s actually how I discovered the stories were being confused, because a reader of The Hostage emailed me excited to finish it. I cleared everything up for her, and I want to make sure I do that for everyone else. If Into The Dark sounds interesting to you, I’d love for you to read it. But don’t buy it thinking you are finishing The Hostage, because you’ll be disappointed.

JamiIf these two stories are so different, why did you pull The Hostage from the fanfic community?

Stacy: At the time, I felt that leaving The Hostage up (even with a disclaimer) would be unfair and give people false hope it might be finished. And to me, trying to carry over readers of The Hostage seemed like an insult to them. Embarking on a career as a published author meant building a reader base from my new writing.

Secondly, I was a bit of a coward and afraid of the backlash from the author community. I didn’t want the online writing world to know I got my start in writing Twilight fan fiction, and that was stupid and selfish. Being a part of that world gave me the confidence to take the next step, and I finally realized I needed to be grateful instead of embarrassed.

Jami: If you had it to do all over again, would you still pull The Hostage from the fanfic community?

Stacy: No. They are two different stories, and that’s easily proven. But more than anything, I regret deleting all those reviews. When I pulled The Hostage, I was thinking only of myself and my own future. I didn’t stop to think that I was also deleting all the hard work that so many reviewers had put into the story, and for that I am very sorry. Pulling it was rude and ungrateful to them, and I never even thought of it from their perspective until it was far too late.

Jami: Any final words you’d like to say to potential readers or to those who still believe Into the Dark should be labeled P2P?

Stacy: I know it’s different. I’m confident in what the software says. However, I realize there are some purists who will always believe Into The Dark qualifies as pulled to publish, and that I did the wrong thing. It’s like politics or religionI can’t change their minds, and I won’t try to. My main reason for the interview is to let readers who want to finish The Hostage know this book isn’t the same thing so they have all the information before they decide to spend their money.

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Stacy Green is fascinated by the workings of the criminal mind and explores true crime on her popular Thriller Thursday posts at her blog, Turning the Page.

After earning her degree in journalism, Stacy worked in advertising before becoming a stay-at-home mom to her miracle child. She rediscovered her love of writing and wrote several articles for Women’s Edition Magazine of Cedar Rapids, profiling local businesses, before penning her first novel. Her debut novel, INTO THE DARK, is set in Las Vegas and features a heroine on the edge of disaster, a tormented villain, and the city’s infamous storm drains that house hundreds of homeless.

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I want to thank Stacy for that honest and insightful look at her reasoning, process, and regrets in bringing Into the Dark to publication. Personally, I think she did things the “right” way, and I wouldn’t even call this situation P2P. She didn’t pull to publish that same story. She pulled a story she had no plans to finish and then decided to reuse the premise. However, others will have their own opinion.

(Edited to add: After commenters weighed in here, Stacy decided to repost The Hostage on fanfiction.net. So her story no longer qualifies as P2P under any definition. Pulling a fanfic story—for any reason—has become a red flag in some of the fandoms.)

Even with this long route of completely rewriting a story, there’s still a risk of confusion because the premise is the same, and people who read only the similar-sounding blurb will assume the story itself is the same too. I don’t know of a way around that problem, as our blurbs should be the “hook” to our story, the most interesting aspect of the premise, and it’s often that aspect that makes the premise worth rewriting. So that essence of the premise won’t changeno matter how much the story itself has changed.

I applaud Stacy’s efforts to get the word out and ensure that she’s not appealing to those fanfic readers with false expectations. I wish more fanfic authors would put in the time and effort to take the path Stacy has.

Have your thoughts about P2P changed after learning more? If so, how? What would make you go through the work of rewriting one of your stories from scratch? Do you have any suggestions for how to overcome the issue of similar-sounding blurbs in situations like this? Do you have any questions for Stacy (about P2P, her process, her book, etc.)?

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Stacy Green

Jami,
Thank you so much for having me today, and for your understanding and support. I look forward to answering any questions your readers might have, so I will be checking in throughout the day.

Jami's Tech Guy (Jay)

Thanks Jami for the great pair of posts on P2P. (Today’s comment is apparently brought to you by the letter ‘P’.) You’re doing a great service by helping everyone recognize that some of the issues surrounding P2P and fanfic aren’t black and white.

Stacy:
Thanks for opening up to us. 1% similar? That 1% is always causing problems…
It would be fascinating to compare various romance novels to find their percentage overlap. Especially those by the same author where voice similarities might be observed.
I agree with Jami, Into The Dark shouldn’t be considered P2P. As a further peace offering, it might be nice to keep a few ARC’s handy for any Hostages commenters who wanted one.

Thanks for helping get my brain started this morning.

-Jay
@jaytechdad

Stacy Green

Hi Jay, thanks so much for your kind words. Voice similarity is an issue for any author, as is overall word usage. I definitely have certain ticks I have to keep track of, and fortunately I have a great line editor who can usually spot them.

As for the ARCs, that is a great idea. I’m sure my publisher would be fine with my sharing a few.

Tamara LeBlanc
Tamara LeBlanc

Jay, I agree 100% in what you’ve said here about comparing various (or loads) of romance novels over the ages to find their ovrlap.
Great comment!

Tamara

Carradee

*sees premise*

*digs up the book at her preferred vendor and puts it on her wishlist*

Now you have me wondering about that fanfic. ^_^

Stacy Green

🙂 Thanks so much. I hope you enjoy if you do choose to read.

Sandra
Hi Jami and Stacy, I read this blog post with much interest. As you may or may not know, I moderate a group on GR that exists to discuss and expose all P2P fanfics. I also shelve proven P2P books on my own shelves accordingly. Also, I know that Jami is one of the most outspoken authors about this phenomenon, and to see her discussing a book that was initially thought to be a P2P is definitely intriguing. Stacy – I can see your reasons for pulling the fanfic, incomplete as it was. I’m sure you also realize that copies of it are floating in cyber space, which will likely be used to ascertain your claim that the published version is 99% different, according to Turnitin. If that is the case, I agree with Jami. Taking the premise of a fanfic (or a published novel, at that), and then building a whole new set of characters, characterizations and back stories, plus a new plot because as Jami has famously said in a previous blog post, new characters don’t act like the fanfic characters and thus develops into a new plot – well, that’s not illegal nor morally corrupt, IMHO. Lots of books use a similar premise, but end up with very different characters and very different plots. Lots of romances use the same premise – handsome, rich hero falls for beautiful but poor heroine – and still end up being rather different in plot and characters. So, I’ve reshelved the… Read more »
Stacy Green

Sandra, thank you so much for reading the interview with an open mind. Yes, I know there are copies of The Hostage out there, and that’s fine with me. Anyone can feel free to compare it–I’m lucky that Jami handled the TurnItIn software on her own and all I did was get her the files. I don’t even know how to use it, but that’s a good thing because it makes me an unbiased third party.

Thank you so much for reshelving the book and for speaking with other mods. I was aware of your group, and I do understand and support your reasoning behind the pulled to publish categorizing, so it really means a lot you’ve chosen to remove Into The Dark.

I would love for you to review the book–please let me know what format you’d like and where to send it, and thank you again!

Stacy

Sandra

Hi Stacy,

Thanks so much for offering a copy of your book for review. If you could provide an epub copy, that would be super. Please send it to sandra [at] myfictionnook dot com.

The group’s primary function is to shed light on the fanfics that are pulled and then show up shortly after as basically the same stories with new names. I’m sure I don’t have to elaborate on FSoG and the outrage that caused. Unlike your book, FSoG was found by Turnitin to be 89% the same as the fanfic. We also provide a safe(r) environment for discussion than an open forum such as Twitter, where stating one’s opinion on the matter can quickly result in a witch hunt. If you’re interested in joining the group, please let me know.

Thanks again.

Stacy Green

Yes, FSoG is a mystery to me. I will never understand why the Big 6 publisher didn’t demand a rewrite at the very least, but I guess money speaks the loudest.

Thanks again, and look for an email from me shortly.

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Catie Rhodes

I don’t know a lot about this particular issue, but I am Stacy’s critique partner and have been for a little more than a year. I helped her work on Into the Dark and can say (from personal experience) that very little of what she started with made the final book.

I am so impressed with how much Stacy’s writing skills have improved just in the year-plus that I’ve known her. I am honored to be first reader on all her fiction.

Let me tell you all a little secret: as good as Into the Dark is, the next book is even better.

Stacy Green

Aw, thank you so much for commenting! Yes, Into The Dark changed repeatedly, thank goodness. So many of those early rewrites were awful. And I can’t tell everyone how much of an asset Catie is a critique partner. Her book is coming out in February, and I’m really excited for it. It’s a unique take on the paranormal world with a great mystery.

Angel
Angel
In some ways, to me, this is one of this issues that should be a non-issue. Yet, it’s an issue. See why it’s complicated? As an author I know there isn’t a big deal about taking a tiny idea that you may have been inspired by something else and developing a full story out of it. I do this every day. Literally, every day I see, read, hear, talk about something that triggers the idea corner of my mind. They build up there until I decide to forget it, expand on it or write it. I guess I don’t really understand why Stacy did a couple of things. 1. Why did she remove her story? Why did she ever write her story? I believe wholeheartedly in the spirit of fanfiction. Writing a fanfic because the original characters inspired you to write an alternative story. Every single original piece I have written I couldn’t even turn it into a fanfiction (IMO). Alternately, every single fanfiction I’ve written is so mired in the original characters and story that I would be left with so little to work with that’s original the work would be pointless. IMO, if you’re writing fanfiction just write it for the joy and fun and entertainment of it. If you’re writing original fiction just write something original. 2. Why not just really start over? If its only 1% the same is it even fanfiction? Or is the author just lingering around the fandom edges for a readership? (I… Read more »
Stacy Green
Angel, I see what you’re saying. And in retrospect, I do wish I’d left The Hostage up because it was so different. As for why I started out in fanfic, I was really into the Twilight world at the time, and going through some personal things. I hadn’t written fiction in a long time, but I really wanted to try. I never even considered publishing until a close friend started urging me to. I didn’t think I was good enough, etc. So the intent to publish was never there, if that makes any sense. The thought didn’t enter my mind until I was urged by so many people to do it. Now, I’ll be honest: this happened twice with me. My first story, Near You Always, was one I pulled after it had been completed for a few months, and I planned on rewriting. Meanwhile, I started The Hostage for fun and never really got back into NYA. I just didn’t love the premise as much as this, and that same friend convinced me to start over with it. So, my long-winded answer to your question is that yes, you’re right. It never should have been this situation, but it was because I had no idea, no plans for publishing. Writing the fan fiction gave me that confidence, and that’s why I regret taking the stories down. I should have been more respectful of the readers. As for lingering around the fandom edges, I actually haven’t been a part of… Read more »
Kimmydonn

Congrats, Stacy! As another fanfiction writer, I wish you all the best with your release! 🙂

Stacy Green

Thanks so much, Kimmy. I really appreciate it!

Stephanie Scott

This sounds like the author found inspiration by writing Twlight fanfic, but the story sounds nothing like Twilight. I wouldn’t consider it fanfic at all since it was reworked so much.

Very cool and congrats on the finished book!

Stacy Green

That’s a great way to sum it up – much better job than I did, lol. Thank you!

Vanessa
Vanessa

Hi Jami and Stacy,

First of let me say thank you to Jami. I would do post on my blogs about p2p fanfiction but then it would bring a whole nasty fight that still exists in the fandom.

Secondly, as far as p2p is concerned, if it was 1% similar I could see myself proud of the author for taking the same idea, and rewriting it completely from scratch with their own characters.

This is my conflict

Why delete the story?
I know the reviewers in the fandom do get annoying, but why delete it? You could have put an A/N on how you have no intentions on finishing the story, I have done that with other stories I wrote. With the story disappearing then you rewrite, it somehow to me feels like the Gabriel’s Inferno fiasco in the fandom. The story could have remain posted and you still could have taken the idea and rewrote it from scratch. With the story still posted it would have been much easier to see that the fanfic and the new one are NOTHING alike. Like when Dear Author ran the side by side and posted the results of FSOG/MOTU the public could see they were exactly the same story.

Ideas are always recycled, like in contemporary and paranormal books. Like in paranormal how the human falls in love with the creature, they just change the creature but the story reads like the others.

Thanks for Letting me comment!

Stacy Green

Hi Vanessa,

Thanks for your comment and understanding. You’re absolutely right–the story could have remained posted. I pulled because at the time, it seemed like the right thing. I felt that leaving it up would lead readers to hope The Hostage would be finished. And, that’s what everyone else was doing, so foolishly, I followed suit. It just seemed to be the first step to take, and I did so without clearly thinking it through or considering the long term repercussions.

I do wish I’d left it up, and I completely understand readers/reviewers frustrations with taking it down.

Thanks!

Vanessa
Vanessa

I wasn’t talking about the reader’s frustration, I was referring to all the messages the FF writer gets from readers begging for updates of the story

Stacy Green

Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. I just meant I understood why readers get frustrated when authors pull, for whatever reason. Thanks!

AngstyG

Well but then if it’s 99% different, then it’s not really p2p, is it? You pulled one thing and published something else. That just doesn’t really fit the definition of p2p to me.

The main stigma that lumps p2p’s together with that attitude that it’s all equally bad is that the practice is fundamentally rooted in necessity–the published work so closely resembles the fanfiction that it *must* be removed from the internet to avoid legality issues. It isn’t so much (for me, at least) an anger that author has removed the story, but rather that the act itself is an explicit admission and acknowledgment of community exploitation, and in many cases, the direct celebration of that.

After all, if the published work were so different, then why would one even bother pulling it?

That clearly wasn’t the case here, so I think it’s a completely different thing we’re talking about; not a case of ‘Fanfic to published book’ so much as ‘borrowed fanfic trope to published book’, which wouldn’t even merit discussion if the author 1. hadn’t pulled the fanfic that inspired it, and 2. had successfully broken away from her fanfic roots.

I just fear giving people the wrong impression that there is somehow a ‘right’ way to p2p their fanfic. I don’t believe there really is. The ethical issues stem from the published work being too close to the original fanwork. If that wasn’t the case, then it wouldn’t need to be pulled.

Stacy Green

I see what you saying. No, this isn’t really pulled to publish, but we needed to clear that up and make sure no one bought Into The Dark thinking it was the same story.

As for the ‘right’ way, that’s true, in a sense. But I think what Jami and I are saying is that if you really love the premise and want to start from scratch, then that is acceptable.

HOWEVER, I would say this, from my own experience: don’t take the fanfic down. If you’re in the middle of it, explain your reasoning. Make it clear what you’re doing, and even then, some aren’t going to agree. But I think, as some others have said, taking it down is the huge red flag.

Secondly, if you have ANY inkling you might one day want to publish (I wish I had) then don’t use that idea as a fan fiction piece. Use something else if you want to write in a fandom and save yourself and your readers the upset.

Thanks!

Vanessa
Vanessa

I agree you you AngstyG

If the published work is so different, then why pull it. I have fics I abandoned and said I will not finish the story.

When an author pulls the fanfic mid-way I’m instantly brought back to Gabriel’s Inferno, using the fandom to test idea then saying “if you want to see what happens you have to buy the book” I’m one where I have to see to believe the fanfic is nothing like the published version.

Angel
Angel

Of course you said it better than me. RME.

AngstyG

I’VE HAD A LOT OF TIME TO PARSE MY FEELINGS OKAY

Vanessa
Vanessa

Your view on the subject is spot on AG!

Tamara LeBlanc
Tamara LeBlanc
First of all, Stacy, congrats on writing your novel. It’s hard work putting your guts into a story and whether it’s fanfic or straight fiction, you’ve done something amazing with your talent…you’ve learned your craft, overcome your fears and got your words out there. Second, I think you did everything right. It doesn’t sit well with me when I hear of authors of fanfic pulling their work, barely (or even partially, 89%, 50%, 35%) altering it and then trying to profit from it. You, on the other hand, IMO, are the model for how it should be done. I see why you’re upset about pulling the reviews, though, but I also feel for you. If I had been in the same situation I might not have realized that I was being unfair to the reviewers until it was too late. It’s tough to take, but chalk it up as a learning experience and put it behind you. Be proud of what you’ve accomplished since then 🙂 I have this saying over my desk that I read just about every day. In my case its meaning has to do with my husband’s brain cancer (he’s doing very, very well, in case I upset you with that…sorry, but I wanted to give you some back story) but the quote can translate to just about anything. It goes like this: Sometimes the best thing you can do is not think, not wonder, not imagine, not obsess…just breathe and have faith that everything will… Read more »
Stacy Green

Tamara,

Thanks so much for your comments. I do regret pulling the reviews because it was rude to those who left them, and I simply wasn’t thinking of anyone but myself at the time.

I LOVE your quote, and I am so glad to hear your husband is doing well. What a scary thing to go through, and it certainly puts a lot of the little things in my life in perspective.

Thanks again!

Crystal Lee
Crystal Lee
Jami, you said, “Yes, I can understand how that would upset the fandom. Because of that case, pulling now has become a huge red flag rather than something people can do for personal reasons (getting out of the fandom, general embarrassment, cutting ties, etc.). That’s a shame really.” My head is about to explode with a thousand thoughts circulating in it on this subject, because so much of Stacey’s story is the same as mine. I started out as a Twilight Fan fic author, and didn’t have a huge following, but I really enjoyed the people I interracted with. Then I won a writing contest and consequently, a publishing contract. I pulled a bunch of my stories on fan fic for various reasons, and at that time, thought in the future I’d publish those stories. Well, as it so happened, for reasons not related to my pulling those stories, the contract fell through. I’d already pulled my stories down. Now I realize that publishing them would be incredibly unethical. At the time, I figured they were my stories to do with what I pleased, not even thinking for a second there was anything wrong with that because I had put in all the work, my characters weren’t canon at all, etc, etc, etc. I didn’t want to tell anybody in the fan fiction community I had decided to self publish for fear of backlash. I have now self published with all original works, none of them ever published on fan… Read more »
Stacy Green

Crystal,
Thank you so much for your comments. I think what you’re doing is a good thing, and if you’ve found a way to still be involved with the fandom without taking advantage – major kudos. That would definitely be a fine line to walk and very easy to cross without even realizing it.

Thank you so much for sharing your story – I’m sorry about the loss of your contract, and I hope you’ve had much success since that. And thanks again for understanding!

Robert

I just want to say I’m doing more of a start over than a rewrite of a nonfiction I was working on.

E.B.Pike

What an interesting post! I’ve never written fanfic but I can totally relate to not wanting to let an idea go. I hope one day I’ll pick up my first novel, dust if off, and find a way to re-imagine it so it works.

Best of luck to you!

VeThena
VeThena

It’s great that EBalways has come forward too clarify all this for us because even though I don’t have a big issue with P2P I was hurt to find that she pulled the hostage to publish it. For me there’s nothing wrong with P2P if the author finished the fanfic version, but completely wrong to get readers pulled in to the story but abandon it and then finish it with “new” characters and expecting people to be grateful that you’re finishing it. I’m glad to know that EBalways/Stacy didn’t do that but still the way she left was very rude. I remember being so impatient for the next chapter of The Hostage that instead of waiting for an update in my mailbox I went to her profile only to find there’s no story anymore. The confusion and disbelief and shock that came was simply hurtful.
So although I believe you when you say you’ve made many changes to the story, it is hard to completely divorce the idea that The Hostage and Into the dark are the same, and also the expectation for them to be the same. Closure was never received and by the sounds of it will never be achieved. You should have told us that you couldn’t continue The Hostage – it would’ve been courteous.

Stacy Green

Yes, that is why I reposted The Hostage yesterday on FFn, although it’s not finished and won’t be. I’m sorry for pulling it and have done what I can to make it right.

Thanks

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Sherry G.
Sherry G.

Such an interesting discussion! Thank you, Stacy, for talking about the process when writing your book. I feel like the whole P2P phenomenon–hope I spelled that right!–has brought up side issues that could affect any author who has written fan fiction and then writes truly original work. I mentioned in a comment to a different post on the subject of fan fiction, that I’ve written a novel, the manuscript with a publisher now, and i worry that because the leading guy has two best guy friends, it could lead people to think it was originally a Twilight fic. It never was and never would have been, but the whole thing of fic authors publishing their fics does make me worry.

I did read the Hostage as a fic, but I do intend to buy the book, because from all you’ve said, stacy, the book isn’t in any way the fic. So, it will be new and interesting. I’m looking forward to reading it.

Thanks, Stacy, and thanks Jami for having her post!

Stacy Green

Hi, thanks so much for commenting. I’m sorry if I’m late to this. Yes the fandom is very sensitive to P2P, and I have seen a few authors accused of it who were never involved. So I do understand the fear.

Thank you for understanding the The Hostage and Into The Dark are different, and I do hope you like the book!

Moxie
Moxie

Thanks for the terrific interview. I emailed the author shortly before her books release to let her know how excited I was about Into the Dark. I was an avid reader of The Hostage and was excited when I came across info on the web about her new book and the similarities of her 2 stories. She quickly replied and explained that they were indeed two different stories and basically sumed up what she said in your interview. I purchased her book anyways and I really enjoyed the story and was not disappointed.

Stacy Green

Hi there! I’m sorry I’m just now seeing this! I’m so glad to know you loved the book even though it’s so different from The Hostage. I think you must have been the one who alerted me on the confusion – so THANK YOU for that:)

Haley Wilson
Haley Wilson

I wasn’t a reader of The Hostage….but I am wondering, if the stories are so different, why the author is so adamant about not completing the fanfcition story? Personally I think this would be a great courtesy to the fans of the story and the reviewers that the author was so sorry for not appreciating.

Stacy Green

First off, thanks to Jami for her response. She pretty much said it all. It’s been nearly 3 years since I left that story, and I have grown as writer. I would definitely have to go back and start all over again as Jami said, and I don’t have the time or the drive to do that.

Thanks for the comment!

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