Immersion Master Class with Margie Lawson: Part One — Guest: Melinda Collins
Whoo boy, do I have a treat for you today. The lovely Melinda Collins recently returned from an Immersion Master Class with Margie Lawson, and she’s here today to share her experience.
I’m playing this cool now, but it was a different story earlier. When I heard Melinda was going to a weekend-long writer’s retreat, I’ll admit to a pang of jealousy. When I heard this retreat was going to be with the amazing Margie Lawson, I begged her to stuff me in her suitcase and take me with her. *sigh* But I was too tall.
So we get the next best thing, a Margie Lawson/Melinda Collins extravaganza! I have Part One of Melinda’s post here. Part Two is with Angela Ackerman at The Bookshelf Muse blog. And Margie Lawson herself is at Melinda’s blog.
And… And! There’s a giveaway at each of the three posts! Woo hoo!
Read on for the details and let’s get this extravaganza started. Take it away, Melinda…
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Immersion Master Class with Margie Lawson: The Experience, The Takeaways, The Lessons – Part One
Thank you, Jami, for inviting me over today to talk about my recent experience in Colorado with the wonderful, talented, writerly genius, Margie Lawson, and her Immersion Master Class!
The Experience
Ever had one of those energizing, eye-opening, and exciting experiences that feels like a once in a lifetime opportunity? Well that’s what Immersion Master Class was like – only it’s also a career-changing, confidence-boosting experience as well!
The kinship between the writers in the class began the moment we set foot in Denver. We each met Margie at the arrivals entrance and were literally, instantly welcomed with open arms. Margie and two classmates were there and waiting for me, and there were hugs all around (even though we’d never actually met before). The special kinship between every one of us was already there before we set eyes on one another because of the shared lessons, enthusiasm, and dedication we each had for our writing craft.
Once we picked up the last of our airport-arrival-buddies – whom we also welcomed with open arms – we trekked from Denver to Margie’s home all the way up a mountain where, unless you had a particular cell carrier, cell service was nonexistent – which is a good thing! Who needs the distraction of a cell phone when you’re there to work your butt off and learn, right? *wink*
The instant we sat down for dinner on that first night (one other classmate was already there, my editing partner, Sam), the learning began. And I have to say that the amount of talent, drive, and excellence sitting around the table was overwhelming in the most amazing way, which is one of the reasons why this particular experience was priceless. Because each of us took the same prerequisite courses (Empowering Character Emotions, Deep Editing, and Body Language), we were on the same level in terms of how ‘Margie-ized’ we were in the writing craft, and we spoke the same ‘Margie language.’
Due to our common purpose of being on the mountain, we had an immediate, unshakeable sisterhood. The bond we had upon arriving deepened the longer we were there, and one of the many things we learned about our small group was how awesome we fit together. Each of us had weaknesses that others had strengths in and vice versa. The experience in and of itself was one of the biggest takeaways I had, simply because I now have a kinship, a sisterhood, with four other writers who I know will always be there to support me and my craft, who I can reach out to and talk about which rhetorical device will work in a particular passage, who I can send a sentence or a paragraph to and know they will help me make it the best it can possibly be (as in a NYT worthy sentence or paragraph).
The Takeaways
One of the many takeaways, other than the experience itself, is that I now know both my personal style and my cognitive style. One of the first tasks we took on was a survey in which we discovered each person’s style. Above all, I have an amiable style, followed closely behind with an analytical style. This means I’m relationship-oriented, strongly committed to others, a team player AND fact-oriented, a planner, an organizer, and at times may appear to be detached because I’m so immersed and focused on a particular task. A close third in personal style is that I’m expressive, outspoken, and spontaneous.
Granted I pretty much knew this, I never truly realized what parts of my personality and style were more dominant. Knowing your style is extremely important in a group setting, and this was the perfect beginning to the Deep Immersion Master Class.
Another takeaway was I got to sit down and not only listen to everyone else’s goal of where they want to be a year from now, but I actually sat down, thought, and decided where I wanted to be a year from now. This is something I hadn’t done before, and I’ll be forever grateful to Margie to having us think and share on these particular goals.
So where do I want to be in a year? I want to be agented (dream agent: Amy Boggs with the Donald Maass Literary agency), I want to enter a few writing contests, I want to have at least two stories drafted and fully polished (though partially will work too), AND, this is a new goal we each decided upon before leaving, I want to attend another Deep Immersion Master Class next year (yup, we’re going back together next year for more!).
The Lessons
Without giving away too much, here’s the first half of the top ten lessons I learned while in Colorado (trust me, there are many, many more):
1. Opening Promises:
The opening of your story, the first sentence/paragraph, should make a promise to your reader. It needs to promise the reader what they can expect from your style, AND what they can expect from your story. Once you’ve got the promise down, you must, must, must follow through and deliver with the rest of your story.
Here’s my newly polished, pitch-perfect opening paragraph:
When you’re happy and with someone you love, you never hear clocks ticking your life away. But the second they leave you, time snickers and revels in your isolation. I eyed the ghostly white clock hanging above the door with a sneer on my lips. Once, not too long ago, I enjoyed the sound of its ticking, especially when writing and pitch-perfect prose appeared on the page.
2. Opening in the Right Place:
One lesson I learned is that when you think you’ve got your story opening in the right place, nine times out of ten it’s not. And that’s okay, because it can take several a few tries to get it juuuuust right. You not only want to start in a place where your two promises will immediately shine, but you also want to start where the action begins.
Sometimes where you think it starts is actually backstory, or it may be where you think it starts is nothing but deep internalizations. We all know both of these are a BIG no-no, but both can creep up without you knowing it, and the next thing you know, you’re getting comments back from Beta Readers and/or critique partners saying the beginning doesn’t pull them in, so what you do instead cutting, cutting, cutting, and pulling, pulling, pulling, is you add, add, add to hook them in.
What I should have done when I got back those comments is look for my first action/paranormal scene, pull it to the forefront, and immediately fulfill a promise I made to my readers. When Margie showed me where my real beginning was, that meant I had to say goodbye and bury four pages of my original opening! And now I can say with confidence, that I know where and how a story should really start.
3. Transitions Aren’t Just for Scene Breaks:
Let’s say you’re reading a character description and the author goes from describing their face directly to mentioning an ugly scar on the character’s shin. Hmm… without a proper transition between the two, this can trip the reader, especially since when we’re describing a character, we normally go from top to bottom, or vice versa. But if you decide to jump from one important, mesmerizing detail on the face to a noteworthy, ugly detail on a leg, you’ve got to transition the reader for a smooth read.
Here’s an example off the top of my head:
His eyes were dark and silky, jaw sharp and sexy. An ugly scar marked his left shin from knee to ankle.
When you started to picture the character’s face, didn’t you instantly place a scar somewhere along his jaw at first? Exactly. There has to be a transition there to take you from the face, to the legs. Something like this that is so incredibly simple makes a huge difference in the reader’s mind.
With a transition:
His eyes were dark and silky, jaw sharp and sexy. She gave him the once-over and caught sight of his left shin. An ugly red scar, from knee to ankle, protruded from his silky, perfectly pale skin.
Better, isn’t it? Nothing to trip the reader when they begin to picture this character in their mind, right? Keep in mind, though, that this isn’t just for descriptions – it can be used for internalizations, setting descriptions, dialogue, etc. This is now one of the many items on my editing checklist.
4. Find Your Pattern:
We each have a pattern when it comes to our writing style, and discovering that pattern is important. An example would be beginning 9 out of 10 dialogue entries with an action beat. Or following-up 9 out of 10 dialogue entries with internalizations. Another pattern could be tending to start every chapter with straight description, internalization, or dialogue.
Most times we don’t know or see what our pattern is, at least not by ourselves. This is where editing/critique partners and/or Beta Readers come in handy – they can help identify your pattern.
A comment as simple as, “I think this action beat should really go behind the dialogue, or better yet, you really don’t need this action beat at all,” will identify a possible pattern of yours. You can then take this comment, add it to your editing list, and make a pass through your MS intending to look for dialogue entries that follow an action beat. If you have sixty of those throughout your MS, then now you know it’s a pattern and you can work to cut 80% of those action-beat-before-dialogue entries.
Bonus Note: Other than Beta Readers and/or critique/editing partners, another way you can find your pattern, is by taking Margie’s Deep Editing online course. She has an EDITS system she teaches that color codes items such as descriptions/setting, emotional/visceral responses, dialogue, and internalizations (to name a few). By highlighting each of these items on a hard copy of your MS, you can spread your pages on a table (or floor) and easily visualize your pattern. Ex: I begin chapter four of my MS with a sea of GREEN (setting and description). Not good. Now I know I need other colors in there like YELLOW (internalization), BLUE (dialogue), and RED PEN (action or senses).
5. Track Important Story Elements:
Let’s say your story has a paranormal element to it such as mindspeak, or maybe your MC has a pet cat, or story has sprinkles of backstory on every page. These are the types of elements you’ll want to track (and these are only three of the many, many, many types of elements you can track). The best way to do this is:
a. Print your MS in full
b. Decide on the elements you’re going to focus on:
i. Important paranormal elements
ii. Mannerisms (Ex: character pinches the bridge of his nose a lot)
iii. Pets
iv. A character’s snarky attitude
c. Beginning with page one, circle/highlight/underline the element you’re tracking.
d. Once you’ve made a pass through the entire MS, go back and look for those areas where you might’ve forgotten about MC’s dog for about 50 pages, or you might’ve forgotten about the snarkiness of a character during intense or high emotional action scenes.
Tracking these items will you ensure you’re creating a balanced story. Since I write paranormal and urban fantasy, and I have a mindspeaking element that enters the story about halfway through, I need to make sure I’m not forgetting about that ability for 25 pages.
The same can work for a MC that likes to run his fingers through his hair when he’s frustrated, or has eyes that go black when he’s pissed. If you know where these characteristics are, then you can work to make each one as fresh as possible, or better yet, you can remove about 20% of them and replace them with a different, more unique mannerism.
I really, really, really want to encourage everyone to visit Margie’s site, purchase and read and absorb the lecture packets and/or enroll in an online course, then, if possible, attend an Immersion Master Class yourself to fully learn not only these techniques/lessons, but soooo much more! In all her courses, you’ll learn ways to add psychological power to your writing and how to write a page-turner that will keep your readers up until the sun peeks over the horizon!
Before I go, I just want to say thank you again to Jami for having me over today and allowing me to share a small percentage of what I learned in Immersion Master Class.
Because I have so much to share, the second part of this two-part blog post is at The Bookshelf Muse blog today! *smiles* And, as an added bonus, Margie Lawson will be over at my blog today, Muse, Rant, Rave, sharing even more writing technique goodies! *double smiles*
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Melinda Collins lives in North Carolina with her freakishly tall husband – AKA: Lurch – two black cats, and drunken muse.
Growing up in the south with an imaginary friend meant Melinda relied on herself for entertainment. Thus, the bug for making up stories – ones that don’t get her into trouble – bit her in the ass in the most gnarly way. She grew to love the paranormal and fantasy worlds while her muse grew to love Grey Goose vodka (she loves him regardless).
When not writing or stuck in a corner listening to a never-ending, story-driven playlist, Melinda can usually be found on Facebook and Twitter.
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Awesome information, right? But I still wish I could have fit into Melinda’s suitcase. *sigh*
Don’t forget, Margie is giving away one lecture packet ($22 value) here, another lecture packet at the Part Two of this post (with the rest of the top ten lessons) at The Bookshelf Muse, and an online course ($40 value) at her post at Melinda’s blog. Just leave a comment at each blog to enter. The winners will be decided/announced by Margie around two p.m. (Eastern Time) on Wednesday, September 5th.
Before you pop over to The Bookshelf Muse for Part Two, with more of the experience, takeaways, and lessons from the Margie Lawson Immersion Master Class, or to Margie’s guest post on Melinda’s blog, Melinda wants us to think about the following:
Where do you want to be in a year? What is your style? Do you have the two promises in your opening sentence or paragraph? Do you follow through with your promises? Does your story start in the right place? Do you have a pattern in your writing? Do you have story elements that need to be tracked?
And finally, do you have any questions for Melinda? *smile*
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Hi Jami!
Thank you again for having me on your blog today! I STILL wish I could’ve fit you into my suitcase! You would’ve had such a great time! But I’ll be going back next year, so maybe we can try to stuff you in there again? Maybe it’ll work this time? 😉
Again, thank you so much!! 😀
Hi Melinda,
LOL! Yes, maybe I should buy you a bigger suitcase for Christmas so I can go next year. 🙂 Thank you for being here!
*snicker* That sounds like an awesome idea! 😉
Hello, Melinda! Sounds like you had a fantasmagorical time, and now even I’m jealous. (*hands Jami a shared jealousy cupcake*)
I love the “promise” bit — I learned that in another class (with a slightly different twist) and it was one of the things that stuck to me like a burr in a mane. Writers are constantly promising things to the reader — whether they intend to or not. Becoming aware of the promises I was making in my stories has sharpened my prose immeasurably!
Odd question: how does one go about finding a “dream agent”? What makes her stand apart from the other agents?
Hi Tami,
Great point! Yes, when I get feedback from beta readers, I’m often discovering that I made (and broke) promises without meaning to. 🙂
I’ll let Melinda share her thoughts about what “dream agent” means to her, but for me, it means deciding what I’m looking for in an agent and prioritizing my list of potential agents on what we deem the most important aspect. I hope that helps and thanks for the comment!
Hi Tami!
Yes, making and keeping the promise are VERY important, and I think that most times we forget to keep those promises. Like Jami said, that’s why it’s so important to have beta readers and critique/editing partners – they help to ensure we keep those promises! 🙂
Hmm…. finding my dream agent is a lot like the process Jami’s got, however, I first begin with the authors that I admire within my genre (J.R. Ward, Thea Harrison, Laura Wright – and that’s just to name a few), then I take a look at their agents, follow them on Twitter, get a feel for their personalities a bit (if possible). Then I take what I’ve learned from social media, and I put that together with Jami’s super-duper checklist, and TA-DA! I’ve got myself a few dream agents that I really want to work with. 😀
What really stands out for me is not only their knowledge of the industry, but also their personality. I’m going to be putting my writing career in their hands, so-to-speak, and trusting them with my everything to not only sell my work, but help me get the best contract possible for me and my work. So their personality and how well I’d probably work with them is right up there with their industry knowledge for me. 🙂
Thank you for stopping by and commenting! 😀
Hi Melinda,
Great rundown of how to approach the process! I came up with my initial list of potentials by looking up the agent of other authors in my genre as well.Thanks for sharing!
You know what they say about great minds….. 😉
I’ll admit to my own twinge of jealousy at the idea of spending days obsessing over my book! I still refer to the notes from the classes I took with Margie and I know my writing is better for it. Hooray for no more huge chunks of green!
Hi Julia,
LOL! Yes, the idea of having no responsibilities other than our story sounds wonderful–much less all the lessons from Margie. 🙂 Thanks for the comment!
Hey Julia —
Yay! You’ve mastered your GREEN in my EDITS System. Good for you.
I bet you would love my Fab 30 class. Full title:
Fab 30 in 40 Days: Advanced Deep Editing, A Master Class.
Fab 30 enrollment is limited to 30. I deep edit 30 pages from each class member, and post lectures and give feedback on assignments.
Fab 30’ers have the option to deep edit sets of pages from each other — before posting them for me to deep edit. There are three prerequisites (ECE, Deep Editing, and Writing Body Language and Dialogue Cues Like a Psychologist), so Fab 30’ers are all Margie-ized, and smart, smart, smart at deep editing.
Some Fab 30 class members have taken Fab 30 all four times I taught it this year. I’m teaching it one more time in 2012 — Oct. 29th – Dec. 7th.
Okay — I got chatty. 🙂
Just wanted you to know about another online option to strengthen your writing!
Thanks for chiming in. I look forward to connecting again.
Hi Julia!
Hehe… yes, having no other worries than my story and getting that first chapter polished up was definitely an amazing feeling. And it made me realize that taking a weekend here or there to check into a hotel, by myself, just to work on my WIP is totally okay. Sometimes even shutting the door to our office, or our bedroom, isn’t enough to truly clear our heads and get away from it all. When I explained that to my husband though, I had to approach it this way: “Honey, it’s an investment in myself, in my business, in my future. And we don’t want the CEO going insane, do we?” 😉
Oooh yeah for no more big chunks of green!! Isn’t the braiding of the EDITS colors fun?!? 😀
And I definitely suggest the Fab 30 class Margie mentions in her reply. Me and my entire immersion group have signed up for the one in October and we can’t wait to get started!
Thanks for stopping by and commenting!!
I am so glad you had the opportunity to go to Margie’s. I know that with just one lecture packet, that I could see the huge value and opportunity it offered to allow me to improve my own writing. I can’t wait for my schedule to free up a bit so I can snag another one. And I remember reading somewhere that Margie’s working on a writing book, and I can’t wait to get that, too!
The EDITS system is a great way to pick up those patterns and become more aware of them. And I loved all the real examples she used in her lectures. Writing fresh is my struggle, and so Margie’s lessons are a perfect match for me.
Don’t enter me in the contest as I’m part of the blog extravaganza, but thanks so much for sharing your knowledge Margie & Melinda, and thanks to Jami as well for letting me steal Melinda for the second half of her post!
Angela Ackerman
Hi Angela,
Yes, I have several packets on my “to buy” list as well, but like you, I want to have a chunk of time to go through them and give the lessons the attention they deserve. 🙂
And I’m glad that you were able to participate in this extravaganza! This post is already super long as it is–I’d hate to see it without a part one/part two. LOL! Thanks for the comment!
Hi Angela!
Thank you so much! I’m so grateful that I got the chance to visit to Margie and learn and absorb all that I could from her (heck, I still am! LOL!). I definitely can’t imagine my writing journey going much further without these classes…now I feel as though I’m one edit away from querying! WOO HOO! 😀
Yes, the EDIT S system totally rocks! Especially one you get the hang of it because you’ll find yourself writing in colors, already braiding in all those greens, pinks, yellows, etc. into your first draft. That’s the fun part right there! 😉
Thank you again, Angela, for hosting me on your site as well! I’m glad we were able to put together this extravaganza so that I got most of what I learned out there in 2 posts vs. 4,5,6 or 7 posts on my own blog (and as it stands, I still have about 3 add’l lessons I could possibly write about in the near future 😉 ).
Thanks for commenting!
Hi Melinda,
And I look forward to seeing those other posts on your blog. 😉
Aw, thank you! Now that I’ve been home for a while and am some-what caught up, I’m going to start working on those posts. 🙂
Wow, great info and tips from the Immersion Master Class. We are all at different places in our writing so what stuck with me today is the one-year goal idea. I’ve always had the vague goal of someday having my fiction published. I think that narrowing it down to specifics sets a target and gets the process in motion.
Also loved the lessons Melinda included. Many things for me to think about and work now! Thanks for sharing.
Hi Shana,
Great point! We’re all at a different point in our writing journey, and different advice can strike us as being more applicable. I’m glad you were able to get something from the post. 🙂 Thanks for the comment!
Hi Shana!
You’re exactly right! We’re all at a different place in our journeys right now, so having a place where you could sit and think about your short/long-term writing goals AND share them aloud with at least 5 other writers is incredibly important. None of us are currently contracted, some of us are closer to querying than others, some of us already had full requests, and one of got news that she finaled in a writing contest, so having each other to lean on push us towards those goals was – and still is – an amazing feeling.
Oh, thank you! So glad to hear that you got something from today’s post! 🙂 Thank you for stopping by and commenting!
Hello Melinda and Jami!
Melinda — Thank you for sharing a taste of Immersion class! I love teaching and connecting and laughing and helping Immersioners make every line carry power.
Can’t wait to work with your whole Immersion class again next year!
You are all so talented. A year from now, all of you could have received THE CALL!
Hi Margie!
Oh, thank you so much for offering ALL of your online classes, and for opening up your home to all of us hardworking writers who want to learn from your genius! 🙂
Can’t wait to work with you and my Immersion Sisters again next year too! Squee! I’m definitely excited to see who gets THE FIRST CALL! 😀
Hello Jami —
Love your blog! Thank you for being part of the TRIPLE BLOG EXTRAVAGANZA!
I’m counting on meeting you and Angela at National next year. Tell me you’re both going to Atlanta!
Hi Margie,
Aww, thank you! I’m so happy you stopped by. I’m not sure I’ll make it to Atlanta or not, but 2014 is definitely on my schedule. 🙂 Thank YOU for participating in this extravaganza!
Whoa, my head is reeling from all the info in this post…I’m going to have to go away for a while, drink some water, breathe, then come back and assimilate. Thanks so much for sharing 🙂
Hi Zena,
Oh no…. lol! I completely understand. There’s so much info, so much going on sometimes, so many ways to learn the craft…and one awesome instructor who puts/brings it all together in best way possible for us all to learn it – and that’s Margie! Don’t worry though…it seems like a lot, and your head does spin a little bit, but it’s a GOOD spin – I promise! 🙂 Thanks for stopping by and commenting!
Hi Zena,
LOL! I know how you feel. Good luck and thanks for the comment!
Fantastic lessons! Thank you (both) so much for sharing.
Hi Annie,
Thank you so much! It was my pleasure to share what I learned (I think this has been one of the top highlights of the Immersion Master Class for me – the sharing!).
Thanks for commenting!
Hi Annie,
Yes, I can’t imagine how Melinda managed to get her Immersion-Class-overloaded brain to come up with something so coherent so quickly (she wrote this post two weeks ago–the day she headed back!). Thanks for the comment!
To answer 1 of your questions, Melinda, 1 place I want to be in a year is at one of Margie’s Immersion classes.
Since I write romantic suspense/mystery, and typically start in the middle of the suspense or mystery, I’m pretty sure I start at the right place. There’s typically a dead body in my first paragraph.
Hi Liz!
Oh, that’s a good goal! 😉 That will definitely take your writing to new heights (cliche-alert!). Romantic suspense/mystery is right up Margie’s highway…she loves those types of stories, so she’ll be able to sign into your MS and help you deep edit, deep edit, deep edit! Dead bodies in your first paragraph? *sideways glance* That’s one way to hook ’em! Awesome! 😉
Thanks for commenting!
Hi Liz,
LOL! Great answer. 🙂 Thanks for the comment!
Well, done and said, Melinda. You did get a Margie immersion while on the Continental Divide.
You reminded me of how much I learned, how much I loved the Immersion Master Class experience. Having Margie look at the pages in my ms and point out nuances was cliche-alert-priceless.
Amazing how quickly she spots opportunities. My particular weakness and watch-for item is switching motivation and response. There are times I’m so enamored with the character’s response, I fail to get the motivation out there first. *Barn door hits escaped horse on the rear* analogy anyone?
FAB30? It’s a bargain to get Margie’s brain wrapped around thirty of your pages. I’m glad to know there’s another coming up this year.
Hi Gloria,
Yes, I looooved having my pages looked at – and not just by Margie, though God knows she’s amazing at spotting those missed opportunities! I did enjoy having writers of other genres look at them too. It’s amazing the diversity of opinion you get from a group like that…and everyone’s right, everyone has a valid point, and everyone’s just so super supportive that you don’t feel bad for having missed an opportunity. 🙂
I sometimes fail on the motivation/response switch too. It’s high up on my editing list, thank goodness, and one day I won’t miss any in a first draft. *crosses fingers*
Oh yes, Fab 30! Will I be seeing you in the forum at this last one next month? 🙂
Thanks for commenting!
Hi Gloria,
Ooo, good example! Thanks for sharing and thanks for the comment!
As someone who is working through Margie’s Deep EDITS system on a YA novel, this is more great information for me to know! (I’m also trying to figure out what to sell to pay my registration fee to her upcoming workshop in Houston.)
Thanks so much for the information. I’m a fairly recent convert, but I have already seen the benefits of looking for these particular elements and going deeper in my editing.
Hi Julie,
Oooo, a fairly new convert? Yay!! Hope you’re enjoying the EDITS system thus far! I find myself dancing in my seat when my colors are perfect balanced and perfectly braided. Just knowing that system alone has helped my writing tremendously! So glad you’re seeing the benefits too!
LOL! I’m also trying to figure out what to sell so I can keep these classes up. I’m a greedy-learner – I wanna know as much as will fit inside this measly little brain of mine! *grin*
Thanks for commenting!
Hi Julie,
Yes, I want to learn how to dig deeper too. 🙂 Thanks for the comment and for sharing your experience!
When I “stumbled” over Margie (that sounds so violent!) I’ll admit I refused to believe the rah-rah over her. But I was stuck editing my first manuscript and I couldn’t figure out how to make the story kick ass.
Margie’s lectures made sense, the packets were affordable, and her classes can’t be beat.
If I EVER get to take an immersion class, I may finally discover writer nirvana.
Trish
Hi Tricia,
Ya know, I was the same way about a year ago? But I decided that I was tired of not knowing how to fix my WIP, tired of feeling as though I couldn’t quite master my craft, and just damn tired of editing with what felt like no actual movement whatsoever. I’m glad I finally just signed up for an online class and got my writing butt in gear! Her lessons are definitely manageable, filled with actual NYT examples, affordable, and Margie’s just such an awesomely infectious person to be around and have in your corner. 😉
Ooo, writer nirvana. Yes, yes! You’re definitely gonna get there! 😀
Thanks for commenting!
Hi Melinda,
Great point! We can’t keep doing the same thing–drafting the same way, editing the same way–and expect to make much progress in our writing. We have to open ourselves to new lessons before we see real improvement. 🙂
Hi Trish,
LOL! Yes, I haven’t taken any of her classes yet, but it’s definitely on my list of things to do. I’ve heard so many wonderful things about her advice. 🙂 Thanks for the comment!
Fabulous. Thank you, Jami, Melinda, and Margie.
I would love to have a book under contract in a year, but most importantly I want to be a better writer than I am today. I want to keep working and moving forward.
Transitions Aren’t Just for Scene Breaks, brilliant, I’m looking at this next. Here I go 🙂
Hi S.J.,
That is a great long-term goal! And you’re right, even if the contract isn’t there (yet!), just being a better writer than you are right now is more than enough of a payoff. We can only go up and get better from here! 🙂
Hehe… yes, I’ve got transitions near the top of my editing list. I was surprised at how many important transitions I missed in my WIP. And when I found ’em, I was even more surprised at how much stronger the work read with not only having edited and included a transition, but how fresh and NYT-worthy some of those lines turned out to be. 🙂
Thanks for commenting!
Hi S.J.,
Ooo, yes, that was one of my favorite tips as well. 🙂 Thanks for the comment!
I’ve studied all her lecture notes and am in an online course now through her university (not her course though). I wish I could attend one of her intensive sessions. We looked at having her for a one day workshop with my local RWA chapter, but she’s very expensive, especially compared to Michael Hauge and Donald Maass.
Hi Stina!
Oh, I love how diverse the courses can be through her university. There’s so many on there now that I think I may end up being in classes for next two years! 😉 I’m especially looking forward to she has another ‘Fang It To Me’ class. I missed the last two but desperately needed a break after Deep Editing, Empowering Character Emotions and Body Language/Dialogue Cues.
Thanks for commenting! 🙂
Hi Stina,
Yes, so far, I’ve been thinking of just buying her lecture notes, but I wonder how much I’d miss by not getting her feedback. *ponders* 🙂 Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for your insights, Melinda! And such a lovely reminder of how perfect the Immersion Master Class was. And then I took all four Fab 30 classes and learned tons more. But there’s always more to learn.
Barb
Hi Barbara,
Ah, another Immersion Grad! 🙂 I wish it wasn’t over because it was so much fun. But there’s always Fab 30, right? 😉 There’s definitely a lot more to learn from both Margie and our fellow Margie-ized writers. 🙂
I’m starting on my first of what I hope to be many Fab 30 classes next month! Maybe I’ll see you in the forums? 🙂
Thanks for commenting!
Hi Barbara,
Great point! There’s always more to learn. 🙂 Thanks for the comment!
I enjoyed this post and the tidbits of info. I’m going to look into the packets/classes for sure. Thank you Melinda for sharing – it appears you had a blast at this class and learned quite a bit. Now onto the 2nd blog. 🙂
Hi S.A.,
I *think* I may know exactly who you are…. listened to any good playlists lately? 😉 Hehe….
So glad you enjoyed the post! Drop me a note/email if you have any questions, my friend. 🙂
See you over on blog #2! Thanks for commenting!
Hi S.A.,
Oh good! *makes note to self that I must clear time in my schedule to go through a class* 🙂 Thanks for the comment!
Melinda,
Great post. I spent a week on the mountain this summer with Margie, so reading your post evoked oodles of nostalgia.
My goal for one year from now – be agented.
Lisa Wells
Hi Lisa —
Oh, thank you! So glad the post evoked some nostalgia! 🙂 Don’t you miss being up there on the mountain? Ahh…. If I could move there tomorrow, I most definitely would. 😉
Ah, great goal! I’m right along with ya on that one, Lisa! 😀
Hi Lisa,
Oh, now I’m jealous of you too. 😉 Thanks for the comment!
I love Margie Lawson’s stuff and have seen her speak a few times. I also have two lecture packets already and find I have to read them in small doses just so I can absorb all the fantastic information.
I totally credit the opening of my second book (Melt Into You) to a Margie lecture. I went back home after seeing her speak and wrote a whole new first chapter (technically a prologue) and it’s one of my most favorite chapters I’ve written.
I haven’t used the deep editing system yet, but that’s because my deadlines have been so tight lately, I end up having to send things to my editor shortly after I finish the draft. But I’m hoping I can one day soon break out the highlighters on something I’ve written. 🙂
Hi Roni,
Yeah, those lecture packets are JAM-PACKED with information – definitely better in small doses! 🙂
Oh, really? *pulls up copy of Melt Into You on Nook* WOW! That *is* a great prologue!! Awesome, Roni! *moves book further up on the TBR list* 😉
Yes, the EDITS system does take some time to get down. I do hope that you get the chance to break our those highlighters soon! Once you’ve done several chapters, you’ll find yourself drafting in color. As in, “Hey honey, check this out – I’ve got an even amount of yellow, green, loads of blue, fresh reds, and powerful pink!” And the hub’s response would be, “Um….I don’t see those colors. Are you feeling okay?” 🙂
Thank you for commenting, Roni! 😀
Hi Roni,
LOL! Yes, I can understand the need to absorb all the great tips in small doses. I was struck by information overload just from this post, much less a whole class’s worth of lectures. 🙂 Thanks for the comment!
excellent points Jami. I wish I were a ‘better sponge’. Loved your explanation of transitions. You know, I have a list of things to check for when I am editing as there are just too many things to think about. It’s all part of what makes writing so stinking tough and amazing at the same time – we never stop learning and improving. I hope.
I just signed up for the Oct 29t class. I know what the EDITS system and other Margie-isms have done for my writing but I’ve still got a long way to go.
Hi Debra,
LOL! Yes, I try not to think too much when I’m drafting, or else I’ll be paralyzed by too many things to keep track of. 🙂
But I’ve found that as we learn and apply information, we internalize it more. Then we gradually start using the information in a natural way as we draft. Those things get easier just in time for us to discover that there’s a new technique to learn. 🙂 Thanks for the comment!
Jami,
That is SO true! Once we get a new technique down, here comes another for us to learn! 🙂
Hi Debra!
The best way I’ve learned how to best absorb new techniques is to practice, practice, practice. Like Jami said, once we do it so many times, it’s internalized so that we eventually start using the techniques naturally during the first draft. Ex: I mentioned in my reply to Roni earlier that now that I’ve worked the EDITS system SOOOO many times, I start to see colors in my first draft, so I know when I should go ahead and get some descriptions, internalizations, or visceral responses on the page.
Oh, you’re in the 10/29 Fab 30 class? Me too!! Woo hoo! See you in the forums! 😀
Thanks Jami and Melinda.
I wish there was an easy way to do EDITS on my laptop… have you tried doing it by highlighting text? Of course I swear my brain gets ‘engaged’ better when I am holding a pen in hand!
I look forward to seeing you in class Melinda.
And Jami, when will the winner of the lecture packet be announced?
Hi Debra,
Yes, I’ve been tempted to highlight on my screen as well. I believe Margie really encourages people to print it out though, as paper reading forces our brains into a different gear–just as you’ve observed. 🙂
Alas, Margie announced the winner in a comment down the string here yesterday. 🙁 Tami won the packet though–so good for her!
Thanks for the comment!
Hi Mel,
Great post! Beautifully summed up information and given with such clarity. Also loved your advice on choosing a dream agent. Can hardly wait until our next Immersion Class. :-)))) Miss you and my other IC sisters.
Hi Paula,
Aww, it’s great to have one of Melinda’s Immersion sisters here. 🙂 And yes, I can’t imagine how she was so coherent after that overload of information. LOL! Thanks for the comment!
Jami,
LOL! It literally felt like information vomit when I was putting these posts together! Haha…. But I’m incredibly grateful that I did it, because I’ll always have them to help remind of the lessons I learned (’cause sometimes we do forget in the heat of the editing-moment). 🙂
Hi Melinda,
I understand. 🙂 I often feel like my blog posts are there for me to refer back to as well. LOL!
Paula!!! 🙂
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! 😀 Miss you too! Can’t wait to see you guys in Immersion next year!
Seems that going back for a second immersion class is a popular pattern. Everyone from my class is planning to reunite next year, too (which reminds me, girls; we need to pick a date!). It’s amazing how quickly the groups click. I’ve only known them since June, but I can’t imagine life without my immersion sisters, either. Aren’t writers the coolest people?
Hi Bernadette,
Man, now I’m really jealous to miss out on all that camaraderie. 🙂
But I know what you mean about wanting to get even more information from a great workshop–I count my Michael Hauge experience in that category. I’d gladly go to the same workshop again and I’d pick up more tidbits. 🙂 Thanks for the comment!
Hi Bernadette!
Yes, it seems it’s starting to become a pattern. We decided to return the night before we left. And yes! I LOVE how we all clicked and fit together, filling in one another another’s weaknesses and pointed out one another’s strengths! It’s the BEST feeling and I really can’t imagine what I would do without these ladies.
Our group created a Yahoo Groups page so we can chit-chat, exchange pages and/or passages with one another, ask for advice, and all that jazz. It’s an awesome way to keep in touch with one another before the next Immersion Class. 🙂
Wow, I didn’t even know something like this existed! I love to write. My imagination runs wild. Problem – I never seem to be able to sit & write more than a chapter. You will find beginnings to books all around my home. Help me finish one! 😀
Hi Stephanie,
Hmm, so is that a “you were never that passionate about the idea to begin with” problem or a “distracted by shiny objects (i.e. the next great idea)” problem? I can really sympathize with that second option. 🙂 Thanks for the comment!
Hi Stephanie,
I’m with Jami – there are many reasons why it can be hard to get past that opening chapter. I also wonder if it’s a “I’m moving forward in the wrong direction” type problem. Sometimes when I move past that first chapter, I find myself stuck because I went in the wrong direction, or I’m writing the right scene at the wrong time. Well…that and I also have the distraction problem Jami refers to as well. LOL! 🙂
So much great advice. I’ve bookmarked this to come back to later. I especially love the find your pattern and track story elements points. Definitely going to use those.
Hi Rinelle,
Heh, yes, I’m scared to do the Find Your Pattern one. I worry about how bad I’ll be. LOL! Thanks for the comment!
Hi Rinelle,
Oh, thank you! So glad you were able to get something from my post! Er – yea, the tracking is super-fun, but can also be super-scary sometimes. LOL! But still, it’s such a great tool to use! 😀
It is great to see how authors learn and improve their writing. What a great opportunity to ramp up my own writing. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Janet,
Exactly! An opportunity to push ourselves can be priceless. 🙂 Thanks for the comment!
Hi Janet,
Yay! I’m so happy to hear that this helps ramp up your writing!! And thank you, I enjoyed and jumped headfirst into the opportunity to share what I learned! 🙂